Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

02/13/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

Note: the audio and video recordings are distinct records and are obtained from different sources. As such there may be key differences between the two. The audio recordings are captured by our records offices as the official record of the meeting and will have more accurate timestamps. Use the icons to switch between them.

Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

Audio Topic
01:32:41 PM Start
01:33:59 PM Fy 24 Budget Overview: Department of Family and Community Services
02:35:53 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 39 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 41 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY24 Budget by Marian Sweet, Assistant TELECONFERENCED
Commissioner, Department of Family and Community
Services
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 41                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^FY 24  BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF  FAMILY AND COMMUNITY                                                                  
SERVICES                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:33:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIAN SWEET,  ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF FAMILY                                                                    
AND  COMMUNITY SERVICES,  OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT AND  BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE   OF   THE   GOVERNOR,  introduced   the   PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation  titled,  "Department Budget  Overview,"  dated                                                                    
February 13, 2023 (copy on file).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet began on slide 2.  She relayed that the mission of                                                                    
the Department  of Family and  Community Service  (DFCS) was                                                                    
to  provide  support,  safety, and  personal  well-being  to                                                                    
vulnerable  Alaskans,  which   was  accomplished  through  a                                                                    
"service  first"  vision.  The department  had  four  direct                                                                    
service divisions  and a support  service division  as well.                                                                    
The budget for  DFCS was just under $460 million  for FY 24.                                                                    
She  advanced to  slide 3  which depicted  an organizational                                                                    
chart  for the  department and  some of  the key  focuses of                                                                    
each division within the department.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   asked  for  a  definition   of  the                                                                    
acronyms on slide 3.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sweet  responded   that  DES   stood  for   Designated                                                                    
Evaluation and  Stabilization and  DET stood  for Designated                                                                    
Evaluation and Treatment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet  continued  on  slide  4,  which  summarized  the                                                                    
reorganization  of  the  Department  of  Health  and  Social                                                                    
Services  (DHSS) as  mandated  by Executive  Order 121.  The                                                                    
Alaska   Psychiatric  Institute   (API),  the   Division  of                                                                    
Juvenile Justice (DJJ), the Alaska  Pioneer Homes (APH), and                                                                    
the  Office  of  Children's  Services (OCS)  were  the  four                                                                    
direct service divisions offering  24/7 care under DFCS. The                                                                    
commissioner's  office and  finance and  management services                                                                    
provided operational support.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet continued on slide  5. She indicated that DFCS was                                                                    
the third largest  department in the state  with 1,854 full-                                                                    
time and  permanent positions. The full-time  facilities and                                                                    
grants  were split  between the  two agencies.  Departmental                                                                    
support  services  included  the commissioner's  office  and                                                                    
finance  and management  services included  human resources,                                                                    
procurements,  information technology,  finance, facilities,                                                                    
and grants.  The two divisions  were split between  DFCS and                                                                    
the Department of  Health (DOH) when DHSS was  split. Due to                                                                    
the divisions  being split between the  two new departments,                                                                    
there  was no  clean way  to show  the departmental  support                                                                    
services  expenditures for  FY 22;  therefore, she  would be                                                                    
presenting a  departmental overview  budget on slide  5 that                                                                    
strictly included the four direct service divisions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet  continued   on  slide  5  and   noted  that  the                                                                    
difference between the  FY 23 management plan  budget and FY                                                                    
24 proposed  budget was an  increase of 1.7 percent  or just                                                                    
over $6.3 million. She spoke  to the differences between the                                                                    
FY 22 actuals and the  FY 24 proposed budget. The difference                                                                    
between the two might appear  large at first glance, but the                                                                    
disparities  could easily  be  explained. Personal  services                                                                    
played a  significant role in  two ways: firstly, in  FY 22,                                                                    
the department had a high  number of vacancies which reduced                                                                    
the  overall  services  expenditures  in  the  fiscal  year;                                                                    
secondly,  in  FY  23  and  FY  24,  personal  services  saw                                                                    
increases    in    salaries   and    benefit    adjustments.                                                                    
Additionally, the payment assistance  program within APH was                                                                    
made up of unrestricted general  funds (UGF) which were paid                                                                    
to APH  through a  reimbursable service agreement  (RSA) and                                                                    
recorded as  interagency recipes.  Since the  payment amount                                                                    
was dependent  upon the number  of elders in the  homes, the                                                                    
amount  of  unspent  authority  was seen  in  both  the  UGF                                                                    
funding  source as  well as  the interagency  funding source                                                                    
and  was essentially  doubled. Furthermore,  API received  a                                                                    
higher  allotment of  disproportionate share  funding, which                                                                    
increased   expenditures   and   reduced   the   amount   of                                                                    
expenditures  that  were   posted  to  statutory  designated                                                                    
program receipts  (SDPR). She explained that  SDPR was where                                                                    
the  private pay  and insurance  collections were  recorded.                                                                    
The  department was  able to  carry forward  the collections                                                                    
and SDPR statutory  program receipts from FY 22  into FY 23;                                                                    
however, the result  was a higher than normal  lapse in SDPR                                                                    
funding in  FY 22.  Interagency receipts  and SDPR  were the                                                                    
main reason for the  discrepancies between the fiscal years,                                                                    
which could be seen on the graph on the slide.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:41:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  understood  that  APH  showed  as  a                                                                    
designated general fund  (DGF). She asked if  the funds were                                                                    
coming from another agency.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. Sweet responded that there  were a few components within                                                                    
APH. There was  a component that was  for payment assistance                                                                    
and  a  component  that  was  for  operation  of  the  homes                                                                    
themselves. The  RSA from  the payment  assistance component                                                                    
supplied the  difference between the amount  the elders were                                                                    
able to  pay to reside in  the homes and the  actual cost of                                                                    
living in the homes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan thought  that the  payment assistance                                                                    
program was showing  as a DGF expense, but it  was also part                                                                    
of the UGF allocation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  responded that Representative Hannan  was correct                                                                    
and that  the program was  funded with UGF and  paid through                                                                    
an RSA, which was recorded as an expense of UGF.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked   whether  payment  assistance                                                                    
expenses  had increased  in  the last  few  fiscal years  or                                                                    
stayed  relatively  steady  as  the new  pay  structure  was                                                                    
implemented. She  understood that  the goal in  changing the                                                                    
monthly payments at APH was  to ensure that residents in the                                                                    
homes were  not removed  because they  could not  pay. There                                                                    
had been  speculation that there  would be a  steep increase                                                                    
in  the   number  of  residents  that   would  need  payment                                                                    
assistance. She thought it was  difficult to tell by looking                                                                    
at the data.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet  replied  that  she  would  follow  up  with  the                                                                    
information  on the  amount of  payment assistance  over the                                                                    
last few  years. She  added that it  was dependent  upon the                                                                    
number of elders  that were in the homes at  the time and it                                                                    
did fluctuate.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  about  the  other category  for                                                                    
funding,  which  he  understood was  private  payer  program                                                                    
receipts and potentially interagency receipts.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded that Representative Stapp was correct.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp  asked   for  a   breakdown  of   the                                                                    
contributing factors to the funding  increase. He asked what                                                                    
the  main  driver  was  behind   the  additional  source  of                                                                    
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet would provide the information.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  asked   if  interagency  receipts                                                                    
would be coming from DOH.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  responded that APH  fell under DFCS. There  was a                                                                    
component  within   APH  that   was  dedicated   to  payment                                                                    
assistance and provided an RSA  to the homes' operations for                                                                    
the  elders who  could not  pay for  residency in  the homes                                                                    
themselves.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  assumed that  many of  the dollars                                                                    
were Medicaid dollars.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet responded  in the  affirmative. She  relayed that                                                                    
API  and APH  both received  Medicaid which  was treated  as                                                                    
interagency receipts and came  from DOH through the Medicaid                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet continued on slide 5.  In FY 23 through the People                                                                    
First appropriation,  DFCS received a $10  million increment                                                                    
into the  base budget  for OCS. Although  there was  a large                                                                    
difference  between FY  22 actuals  and the  proposed FY  24                                                                    
budget,  the  differences  were explained  in  the  "unspent                                                                    
other"   category  and   the  "unspent   personal  services"                                                                    
category due  to vacancies. She  noted that on  the upcoming                                                                    
division slides,  the increases  would be related  to salary                                                                    
and benefit adjustments. However,  she would not be focusing                                                                    
on those  increases because she  would like to focus  on the                                                                    
new  budget changes  between FY  23 and  the proposed  FY 24                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet continued on slide  6. The department had 58 full-                                                                    
time,  permanent positions  and a  budget of  $17.9 million.                                                                    
She  reminded   members  that  since   departmental  support                                                                    
services  were split  between the  two new  departments, she                                                                    
did not  have the data  for FY 22 to  compare to FY  24. One                                                                    
thing to  note was  a transfer of  a health  program manager                                                                    
from inpatient mental health  into the commissioner's office                                                                    
to   provide  departmental   oversight  of   the  designated                                                                    
evaluation and  treatment program. Another  significant item                                                                    
was  the increase  to the  complex  care coordination  unit.                                                                    
Also, within the commissioner's  office, there was a request                                                                    
for three  new positions:  a deputy director,  an additional                                                                    
care coordinator  position, and a social  services associate                                                                    
position. The  Alaska Mental Health Trust  Authority (AMHTA)                                                                    
was  supportive of  the new  positions and  had put  forth a                                                                    
request for $150,000 for the  unit and the remaining balance                                                                    
of   $324,000  was   spread   between   federal,  UGF,   and                                                                    
interagency receipts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  advanced to  slide 7. She  reported that  APH had                                                                    
422  full-time  permanent  positions and  served  six  homes                                                                    
across the state with a  budget of $107.2 million. The homes                                                                    
provided  nursing services,  assistance  with dietary  needs                                                                    
and  activities of  daily  living,  recreational and  social                                                                    
programs,  housekeeping,  and  meal preparation.  The  homes                                                                    
provided for  five levels of  care with level one  being the                                                                    
most independent  going up  to level  five for  those living                                                                    
with dementia or other complex care needs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked if  Ms. Sweet could  offer some                                                                    
information on the vacancies. She  had met with a few people                                                                    
who  were   concerned  about  employees  at   APH  providing                                                                    
additional levels of care for which they were not trained.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet responded  that APH  were  currently reporting  a                                                                    
14.5 percent vacancy  rate for residents with 63  of the 422                                                                    
positions  vacant as  of the  end of  December of  2022. She                                                                    
noted  that  APH  would  be giving  a  presentation  to  the                                                                    
committee  in a  few weeks  and  she would  ensure that  the                                                                    
presentation  would include  information on  the impacts  of                                                                    
the vacancies on the level of provided care.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz asked  if there  were statistics  that                                                                    
suggested that  there were empty  beds at the homes  not due                                                                    
to lack of demand, but due to lack of employees.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  responded that she  did not have  the information                                                                    
but  would ensure  that it  was included  in APH's  upcoming                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson would  also like  more information  on the                                                                    
vacant rooms.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk asked  how  much  revenue was  brought                                                                    
back into the homes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet  replied that  she  would  be talking  about  the                                                                    
budget on the next slide.  She did have occupancy statistics                                                                    
for  each  of  the   homes  individually,  but  the  average                                                                    
occupancy rate  was 93.6 across  all of the homes.  The home                                                                    
with the lowest occupancy rate  was in Anchorage with a rate                                                                    
of 81.9  percent. The Anchorage  home had a  lower occupancy                                                                    
rate because some  rooms had to be  strategically vacated in                                                                    
order to conduct a number of remodeling projects.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:56:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet  continued on  slide  8.  Within the  homes,  the                                                                    
department had  processed a  minor fund  switch from  UGF to                                                                    
statutory designated program receipts  due to an increase in                                                                    
pharmacy collections. There were  two impacts within the DGF                                                                    
section  for APH:  firstly,  in the  FY  24 budget  request,                                                                    
there was  an increase of  $1.25 million in  general program                                                                    
receipts which  would allow for  the expending  of collected                                                                    
receipts for  things like  kitchenware and  furniture within                                                                    
the  homes;  secondly, on  January  1  of 2023,  the  Social                                                                    
Security  Administration (SSA)  benefit  rate increase  went                                                                    
into effect,  therefore APH rates increased  as well because                                                                    
they were directly tied to  the SSA benefit rates. The slide                                                                    
showed the FY 23 supplemental  request of $700 million which                                                                    
would  allow the  increase of  program receipt  authority in                                                                    
order to  fund the anticipated increases  in collections. In                                                                    
response  to Representative  Cronk's  earlier question,  the                                                                    
total revenue brought  back into the home  was $38.6 million                                                                    
in 2022.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  understood that the proposed  FY 24                                                                    
budget included  a request of  $1.25 million in DGF  for APH                                                                    
due to the consistent high  capacity at the homes. She asked                                                                    
if the request  related to the cost of renovations  or if it                                                                    
was  simply because  the homes  were going  through supplies                                                                    
quickly due to the high capacity.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet responded  that  there had  been  an increase  in                                                                    
insurance  and  private  pay that  exceeded  the  amount  of                                                                    
authority allowed  by the funding source.  The authority was                                                                    
limited  and   more  collections  were  incoming   than  the                                                                    
authority allowed.  The request  would allow  the department                                                                    
to reinvest the funds back into the homes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet continued on slide  9. The inpatient mental health                                                                    
operating  budget   was  $75.2  million  and   the  RDU  was                                                                    
comprised of  designated evaluation and treatment  (DET) and                                                                    
API.  For  the purpose  of  explaining  the changes  in  the                                                                    
budget, she  advanced to  slide 10.  She indicated  that DET                                                                    
was  transferred  to the  department  from  the Division  of                                                                    
Behavioral Health through Executive  Order 121. The increase                                                                    
seen on the  slide was a result of expanded  funding from HB
172  and   totaled  $904,000.  The  remaining   funding  was                                                                    
$525,000 in  UGF and $150,000 in  interagency receipts which                                                                    
were  specific   for  the  following   programs:  designated                                                                    
evaluation    and    stabilization     (DES),    DET,    the                                                                    
disproportionate  share   hospital  ("DISH"   funding),  and                                                                    
secure transport agreements.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:02:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  why  the chart  on  slide  10                                                                    
showed  a large  chunk of  federal money  for FY  22 and  no                                                                    
federal money for FY 23 and FY 24.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet responded  that when  DFCS was  part of  DHSS, it                                                                    
managed the program  and was able to  submit claims directly                                                                    
to Medicaid  because it was  within the same  department. In                                                                    
2023 when the unit was transferred,  it had to be moved from                                                                    
the federal source in order to bill Medicaid.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  understood that it was  still federal                                                                    
money, but for  accounting purposes it was  no longer called                                                                    
federal  money  and  was  now  referred  to  as  interagency                                                                    
receipts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  requested for  Ms. Sweet to  break out                                                                    
interagency federal  receipts from other funding  because it                                                                    
was confusing to track.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet would be happy to accommodate the request.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson noted  that  the  DET program  was                                                                    
essentially  an equivalent  classification as  was given  at                                                                    
smaller API hospitals.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet replied that the  DET program included the portion                                                                    
of funding that  went to the DISH  hospitals, which included                                                                    
API. There were  DET and DES programs  that funded hospitals                                                                    
that  provided  treatment  and stabilization  services.  The                                                                    
programs  intended to  support mental  health needs  without                                                                    
needing to transfer a patient to API.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:06:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  advanced to  slide 11. She  relayed that  API had                                                                    
326 full-time  and permanent positions  and a budget  of $60                                                                    
million. It  was the only full  service psychiatric hospital                                                                    
in  the state  and had  a  maximum capacity  of 80  licensed                                                                    
beds. She  indicated that 60 of  the beds were in  the adult                                                                    
civil unit, 10  were in the adolescent unit, and  10 were in                                                                    
the forensic competency restoration unit.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  moved to  slide 12. There  were two  new programs                                                                    
being  proposed in  FY 24  to  help the  number of  Alaskans                                                                    
charged with a  crime to restore the  individual to forensic                                                                    
competence:  the  out-patient  program  and  the  jail-based                                                                    
competency restoration program.  The budget request included                                                                    
four new full-time positions and  one new part-time position                                                                    
to standup the  new programs. The department  was working on                                                                    
securing  a  location  in   Anchorage  for  the  out-patient                                                                    
competency   restoration   program    and   continuing   its                                                                    
collaboration with  the Department  of Corrections  (DOC) on                                                                    
the  jail-based  program. The  request  was  an increase  of                                                                    
$800,000 in UGF.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  asked if there  were any monies  that came                                                                    
from DOC.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  responded that the restoration  services would be                                                                    
provided by API staff, but  staff would be traveling on-site                                                                    
to  provide  services  to  those   who  were  in  jail.  The                                                                    
individuals  receiving   care  were  in  the   jail  systems                                                                    
themselves,  but  she did  not  have  any information  about                                                                    
DOC's budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson wondered about the  inmates who were in API                                                                    
facilities  because  of decisions  made  by  the court.  She                                                                    
asked how the funding worked for inmates in API facilities.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  responded that  the inmates were  in the  care of                                                                    
DFCS.  She  explained that  API  helped  the individuals  to                                                                    
achieve competency so that they  could go to trial. The jail                                                                    
based restoration would be for  individuals who were in jail                                                                    
and  awaiting   trial,  and  the  out-patient   program  was                                                                    
intended to  help those who  had committed lesser  crimes or                                                                    
were out on bail.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson asked  about  individuals  who were  post-                                                                    
trial  and were  likely to  not be  released. She  was aware                                                                    
there were some individuals at API in that situation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded that she  would need someone from API to                                                                    
offer more information.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Johnson  asked   if  DOC   paid  for   post-trial                                                                    
individuals.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet would  follow up  in writing  with the  requested                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:10:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked about  the $60  million in                                                                    
the FY 24 budget for 326  positions at API. He surmised that                                                                    
broke it out to roughly  $185,000 per position. He asked for                                                                    
a  list  of  the  top   ten  positions  and  the  associated                                                                    
compensation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet would provide the information.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked if AMHTA was  contributing to                                                                    
the program in any way.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded  that the department did  not have AMHTA                                                                    
authority for the two specific programs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked if  the new  department knew                                                                    
what was  happening in a  court room when an  individual was                                                                    
found to be unrestorable and  incompetent to stand trial. He                                                                    
was wondering whether  the Department of Law  (DOL) and DFCS                                                                    
talked to each other.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  responded that  the department  spoke to  DOL but                                                                    
she herself did not. There  was a full-time employee at DFCS                                                                    
who  was  the  DET  and DES  coordinator  and  was  directly                                                                    
involved in all of the Title 47 cases.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  advanced to  slide 13. She  relayed that  OCS had                                                                    
614  full-time positions  and worked  to ensure  the safety,                                                                    
permanency,  and  well-being  of children  by  strengthening                                                                    
families, engaging communities,  and partnering with tribes.                                                                    
There were  21 offices across  five regions and  the overall                                                                    
budget was $195 million.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  asked if Ms.  Sweet knew the  vacancy rate                                                                    
for OCS.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded  that the vacancy rate for  OCS was just                                                                    
under 22  percent at the  end of  December of 2022.  She did                                                                    
not  have  it broken  out  but  would  be happy  to  provide                                                                    
information  on  the  vacancy  rate  for  direct  front-line                                                                    
social workers. She  noted that the vacancy  rate was higher                                                                    
for social workers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson commented  that the subcommittee he                                                                    
used to  chair in FY  22 believed the employment  crisis was                                                                    
so severe at OCS that  workers should get retention bonuses;                                                                    
however, the governor vetoed the  bonuses and had a plan for                                                                    
his own bonuses in FY 23. He asked how the plan had worked.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded  that DFCS had been  partnering with its                                                                    
sister agency,  the Department  of Administration  (DOA), on                                                                    
getting letters of agreement finalized  and approved by both                                                                    
unions.  The  agreements  were  almost  finalized  and  once                                                                    
approved,  the  agreements  could be  implemented.  For  the                                                                    
first  time,  the department  had  seen  a decrease  in  the                                                                    
turnover in its frontline staff.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson noted  that  the subcommittee  two                                                                    
years ago was told that the  workers at OCS were changed and                                                                    
damaged by their  work. The state had funded  a clinician to                                                                    
assist the workers. He asked  if a clinician or psychologist                                                                    
had ever been provided to OCS workers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet responded  that the  Mental Health  Clinician III                                                                    
position had  been created for  the purpose of  helping with                                                                    
the trauma that the staff at OCS had experienced.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:15:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  about the  22 percent  vacancy                                                                    
rate.  She  thought  it  was  a lot  of  unspent  money  and                                                                    
represented a  lot of care  that was  not able to  be given.                                                                    
She had  not looked at  what specifically had been  done but                                                                    
she was curious  if there were plans to  address the unspent                                                                    
monies in addition  to retention bonuses and  working with a                                                                    
psychologist. She wondered how the legislature could help.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet  replied  that  the  department  appreciated  the                                                                    
sentiment  and  there  would be  another  presentation  that                                                                    
addressed  the  problem  in more  detail.  The  presentation                                                                    
would  discuss what  the  division was  doing  to help  with                                                                    
morale,   training    programs,   and    partnerships   with                                                                    
universities.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  moved to slide 14.  The first item of  note was a                                                                    
new program  within OCS  to assist  with foster  youth aging                                                                    
out  of  the  system,  which was  a  budgetary  increase  of                                                                    
$385,000,  of which  $235,000 was  being supplied  by AMHTA.                                                                    
The  program would  partner  with  the existing  independent                                                                    
living program  within OCS to  provide expanded  services to                                                                    
youths.  The other  item of  note was  a fund  source change                                                                    
from general  funds to  a general  fund match  to accurately                                                                    
reflect the state's share of  the federal spending. Both the                                                                    
general  fund and  general  fund match  fell  under the  UGF                                                                    
category and  was a net  zero, but  as it was  a significant                                                                    
dollar amount, she wanted to highlight it.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  continued to slide  15. The Division  of Juvenile                                                                    
Justice  (DJJ) had  424 full-time  permanent positions,  six                                                                    
facilities, and  13 probation officers across  the state and                                                                    
a budget  of $62.1  million. It  used a  restorative justice                                                                    
approach which meant a focus  on rehabilitation of the youth                                                                    
offenders and restoration of victims and communities.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  advanced to slide  16. There were  no significant                                                                    
changes in the budget related  to DJJ. The increases seen on                                                                    
the slide  were strictly related  to the salary  and benefit                                                                    
adjustments in UGF and within the federal programs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet summarized the presentation.  She relayed that the                                                                    
DFCS proposed  budget had a  number of technical  changes as                                                                    
required by  HB 172, the  majority of which were  salary and                                                                    
benefit  increases. There  were four  new budget  items: the                                                                    
increase in  program general receipts  for APH,  the funding                                                                    
and new positions within API,  the complex care coordination                                                                    
unit within the commissioner's  office, and the increase for                                                                    
foster youth  who were  aging out of  the system.  The total                                                                    
amount  of UGF  funding for  the four  new budget  items was                                                                    
$1.1 million. She concluded the presentation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:21:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  thought   the  federal  receipts  for                                                                    
Medicaid  should be  consistent,  however  private care  for                                                                    
individuals who  had long-term care  insurance might  not be                                                                    
consistent. He asked if a  potential liability for the state                                                                    
would be  created in the  event that the  requested revenues                                                                    
did not materialize.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet responded  that  the  payment assistance  program                                                                    
within APH  was intended  to support  the elders  within the                                                                    
homes.  While there  was an  increase in  receipts currently                                                                    
due to  private pay and insurance  collections, the increase                                                                    
might not  continue in  the future. If  there was  a reduced                                                                    
amount  of   collections  in   future  years,   the  payment                                                                    
assistance program would compensate for it.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon commented that the  committee had received a                                                                    
presentation from  AMHTA recently and among  the proposed FY                                                                    
24 grants  was $772,000 in  grants for DFCS. He  offered Ms.                                                                    
Sweet  an opportunity  to expand  upon the  purposes of  the                                                                    
grants.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet replied that she  touched on the new funding items                                                                    
for FY  24 and there  were a number  of items in  AMHTA that                                                                    
were  continuations  from  prior  years  that  she  did  not                                                                    
specifically  address. She  would  be happy  to provide  the                                                                    
information in writing.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon asked if she had  a ballpark idea of how the                                                                    
$772,000 in grants would be spent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded that what  came to mind were some grants                                                                    
that were  continuing from prior  years and going  into OCS.                                                                    
It  was  a  combination  of  funding  for  OCS  as  well  as                                                                    
departmental  support  services  within  the  commissioner's                                                                    
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  thought that  it would  be helpful  for the                                                                    
committee to get a breakdown of the spending.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet would provide the information.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:24:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan commented that  the information on DJJ                                                                    
caught her  off-guard because it received  so little federal                                                                    
money. She  presumed that many  of the  children encountered                                                                    
by  OCS  ended  up  in  DJJ. She  noted  that  Medicaid  and                                                                    
Medicare  stopped  when  an  adult  was  incarcerated  in  a                                                                    
prison. She wondered  how the process worked  within DJJ and                                                                    
asked what she  might be missing considering  the low number                                                                    
of federal dollars.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded that the  federal grants within DJJ came                                                                    
from the  Department of  Justice (DOJ)  and the  grants were                                                                    
small.  The youth  that were  in  the care  of DJJ  received                                                                    
medical coverage  from DJJ  unless they  were admitted  to a                                                                    
hospital and  were there  for over 24  hours, in  which case                                                                    
the individual would be covered by Medicaid.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  understood  that  even  if  a  young                                                                    
person had Medicaid coverage before  being incarcerated in a                                                                    
juvenile facility,  the federal  reimbursement for  any care                                                                    
was suspended upon their incarceration.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  summarized the requests the  committee had                                                                    
made for more information.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:26:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe asked for detail  on the goal of the                                                                    
complex placement and care unit.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet replied  that there  were a  number of  youth and                                                                    
adults that  were presenting  to DFCS  because they  did not                                                                    
have a  good place to go.  As an example, there  was a youth                                                                    
that recently came into the  department's care who could not                                                                    
get their needs  met by API or any of  the facilities in the                                                                    
state. The call  from the youth lasted an  entire weekend as                                                                    
DFCS,  the commissioner,  DOH, and  community partners  were                                                                    
working to find  an appropriate facility for  the youth. She                                                                    
relayed   that   similar   problems  were   happening   more                                                                    
frequently. The department was creating  a complex care unit                                                                    
within the commissioner's office to  ensure that there was a                                                                    
specialized  resource  for   complex  placement  cases.  The                                                                    
department  was  going to  work  with  partners in-state  to                                                                    
increase the  capacity for  both youth  and adults  who were                                                                    
presenting   with    complex   and   high    acuity   needs.                                                                    
Additionally, the department was  working with partners out-                                                                    
of-state so there  would be other options  if the department                                                                    
was not able  to find an individual a  suitable placement in                                                                    
Alaska.  The  focus of  the  unit  was  to ensure  that  the                                                                    
placement for  an individual was  based on  the individual's                                                                    
specific needs  and that they  could work  towards rejoining                                                                    
their community.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe asked  how  many individuals  would                                                                    
need  complex care  and placement.  She was  struggling with                                                                    
the  concept because  she  thought  complex placement  cases                                                                    
would be the responsibility of DOH.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sweet  replied  that  DCFS  was  working  with  DOH  on                                                                    
creating  a database  of providers  and  services that  were                                                                    
available. The  departments were collaborating  on licensing                                                                    
and expanding  services in existing facilities.  In order to                                                                    
stand  up  the unit  in  2023,  a complex  care  coordinator                                                                    
position had  been created  and DCFS  had hired  someone for                                                                    
the position.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  ensured that  Ms. Sweet  had made  note of                                                                    
the follow-up requests.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:31:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  understood  that there  had  been  a                                                                    
presentation in the Senate on  the litigation from DOJ suing                                                                    
the  state over  its  inability  to meet  the  needs of  its                                                                    
complex care  individuals. She had not  read the conclusions                                                                    
from  DOJ  but  presumed  that  it  directed  the  state  to                                                                    
construct  facilities  and  offer  services  that  had  high                                                                    
sticker prices. She wondered if  the committee would receive                                                                    
a similar briefing on the litigation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  explained that  the current focus  was the                                                                    
subcommittees   and   to   address  higher   level   funding                                                                    
overviews. She  indicated that she would  add Representative                                                                    
Hannan's request to a "to be considered" list.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   thanked   Co-Chair   Johnson   and                                                                    
commented that  the state needed  to figure out how  to meet                                                                    
the needs  of Alaskan families because  needs were currently                                                                    
not being met.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked if  there was linkage between                                                                    
the complex care unit and the DJJ lawsuit.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet  replied that there  was a  link in that  the unit                                                                    
was   trying  to   ensure  that   complex  placements   were                                                                    
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe understood  that the  unit was  not                                                                    
creating any new  space for care, but it  was a navigational                                                                    
tool.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sweet responded no, the  unit was not creating new space                                                                    
but was  ensuring that the state  and DFCS had built  a team                                                                    
to help  meet the  individual needs of  those who  came into                                                                    
the department's care.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HB  39  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  41  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  reviewed  the agenda  for  the  following                                                                    
day's meeting.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HFIN DFCS Budget Overview Presentation 2.13.23.pdf HFIN 2/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 39